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clerty



Joined: 08 Aug 2008
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 3:53 pm    Post subject: herxing Reply with quote

Hi I am am new to CS I think I have Lyme disease and have been having great results with it.However I think I might be herxing on it I am taking 2 teaspoonfuls a day I have been feeling so tired and yucky I would like to know if there is a protocol on it I have been taking it for 5 weeks I know of people getting better on it .there are a few things on my mind
1. should I up my dose
2.how long should I take it for
3.what about Ayagria for long term use
4.Is the amount I am taking as strong as 2x500mg of antibiotics.

sorry to go on just need some answers

clerty
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ino



Joined: 03 Jul 2008
Posts: 4

PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 10:45 pm    Post subject: Re: herxing Reply with quote

clerty wrote:
Hi I am am new to CS I think I have Lyme disease and have been having great results with it.However I think I might be herxing on it I am taking 2 teaspoonfuls a day I have been feeling so tired and yucky I would like to know if there is a protocol on it I have been taking it for 5 weeks I know of people getting better on it .there are a few things on my mind
1. should I up my dose
2.how long should I take it for
3.what about Ayagria for long term use
4.Is the amount I am taking as strong as 2x500mg of antibiotics.

sorry to go on just need some answers

clerty


Hi, Can't answer all questions, but can with a couple.

1) When starting CS copious amounts of water should be ingested while doing so initially. This assists in the flushing of toxins etc from the body. Kidneys, liver etc can get a tad overloaded as they try to purify your blood etc. These organs need help in expelling aforesaid toxins via the normal body eliminatory processes. This COULD be a reason for how you are feeling, someone else may be able to give better advise there.

2) FORGET ABOUT TURNING BLUE OR ANY OTHER COLOUR! If you are using true EICS, or Electro-Ionic Colloidal Silver, this will NOT happen. There has never been a case of Argyria, I might just repeat that for you...there has NEVER been a case of Argyria reported which has been the result of the ingestion and/or topical use of 'TRUE' EICS, as produced and ingested in the home! I can't speak for 'shop bought' though as I produce my own, however, I have never seen any reports of it occurring with 'bought' products either.

The definition of 'TRUE EICS' is pure fine silver and pure or distilled water...AND NOTHING ELSE!

Every article you find, relating to Argyria, are in relation to Compounds, Nitrates, Acetates, Proteins, stuff being added to the water, the use of ordinary tap water, not using pure fine silver...(the list could go on clerty, but I think you should be getting the picture), and the WILDLY INDISCRIMINATE ingestion and/or topical use of these. NOT ONE of these are TRUE EICS.

RULE NUMBER 1...Only use 99.9+% pure fine silver.
RULE NUMBER 2...Only use pure or distilled water, AND NOTHING ELSE.
These rules only apply if you are making it yourself obviously, if you are buying CS then they don't apply to you here.

Someone else will be better able to answer your other questions. Cheers.
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clerty



Joined: 08 Aug 2008
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 10:41 am    Post subject: Thanks Reply with quote

I appreciate your reply I was just a bit scared as I have MCS and was worried about the silver making it worse thankyou.

I am taking Silver protein should I change it then?

Clerty
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ino



Joined: 03 Jul 2008
Posts: 4

PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 5:03 pm    Post subject: Proteins Reply with quote

clerty wrote:
I am taking Silver protein should I change it then?

Clerty


Sorry clerty, this is why I could only answer a couple of your questions in your original post, I am not overly familiar with Proteins.

That's one question that you may need someone else to answer more in depth as I have never used Protein, but what I can say is that bacteria has been known to reside in the medium which surrounds the silver. This 'medium' can act as a barrier between the silver and the bacteria, hence bacteria can be present and remain unaffected by the silver content as they are not in contact with each other. Proteins, to my knowledge, usually enables a much higher silver ppm content to be present, but can only be so due to the medium used to keep the silver 'dispersed', or in 'solution' so to speak. I don't know if this signifies the varying 'qualities' of Proteins available on the market or what, but if this is true it's pretty much 'counter productive' to me. I don't necessarily want a 'million' ppm, and I don't want the possible introduction of any other 'bugs' into my body if you get my drift, so I am content with straight 'silver and water'.

That's all I can say regarding Proteins. I'm not saying that it's always the case, and I am not saying that it's the case with your product either, but I have read that this contamination has been observed and reported in the past.

See if you can draw a response from someone else who may have more experience with these products. I don't know how much research you have done, but google 'silver colloids' (followed by the usual ending), there is a wealth of information there on the 'Herxheimers' reaction and Proteins, and pretty much anything else you may wish to know about. I consider it one site that appears to have good, unbiased information, there are many, many other sites of course, but of all the information I have collected over years, this one seems to be a fairly good source of info. Cheers.
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