Eytons' Earth: Natural & Alternative Medicine

[Bear]

Hi,
What would be the dosage for using CS for fighting flu or infection? What would be an otherwise maintenaince dosge as preventative?

[eytonsearth]

Hi Bear:

First, it depends on what product you are using... The thoughts below do not apply to mild silver protein, silver citrate, silver nitrate, silver acetate or any other silver compound; the thoughts also do not apply to any silver product above ~15 PPM.

I've witnessed excellent results with good EIS for the rather tough flu strains out this year. In my own case, an ounce of prevention is worth it's weight in silver!

For those whose immune systems are not responding favorably to this years colds/flus, then a temporary dosage of two ounces of EIS ( Electrically Isolated Silver ) every four hours has proven advantageous. Once the flu takes hold, however, it may take 72 hours for the EIS to begin to have a noticeable effect. For lung conditions, a nebulizer must be used to effectively address the condition; for sinuses, direct irrigation.

Maintenance dosing is up to the individual and the individual's beliefs. Some people don't believe in using CS for maintenance, others drink copious amounts of CS on a daily basis.

Some people believe that IES will never build up in the body, and therefore there is no risk of silver accumulation. Others believe that EIS does not build up as quickly ( compared to high PPM silver compound products ).

It really depends upon your overall health. One to two ounces daily would be close to the average maintenance dose.

I personally have no need to use CS as a maintenance supplement during the Spring or Summer. As a matter of habit, I use it during the winter months.
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[Bear]

Great information, I really appreciate your reply.

Thanks,
Bear

P.S. I am using a Silvergen SG6 as my source for colloidal silver

[clay-basket]

I purchased some BioAlternative Colloidal Silver to use internally and externally, but I can't take it internally, I guess. It made me have heart palpitations.

Anyone ever experience this or know why such a thing would happen?
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[Big Al]

Silver will not cause heart problems. The product you used possibly has a contaminate or is something other than silver. The problem with all the products is that they are all labled collodial. They are not all colldial. They are ionic and protein or something not known. I have a heart problem and take it in large doses with no problem. Being a research chemist( 40 years retired) I do not make my own silver because I can't test it with a HPLC as they are too expensive even for the Mfg's to have. 95 percent of the silver Mfg do not know what they are producing or even how much. You can buy a small bottle from a Mfg and send it to a lab in Jersey that tests the product for free and it reports it on it's web site so even the Mfg can see what he is producing. Some advertised they made 100 ppm. When tested it contained only 0.52 percent of advertised. That's right 1/2 percent of 100 ppm which was .52ppm. I have this lab's site and if you want it just e mail me as I can't go to the site while this site is up to get it. I use an ionic and a collodial product. Each tests out to be over 100 percent of advertised.

[clay-basket]

Hi Al,

Thanks for the input. Here is the website from the stuff I bought. See what you think after reading it. I've never purchased the stuff before so I have no idea if this is good quality or not. http://bio-alternatives.net/buysilver.htm?OVRAW=colloidal%20silver%20as%20eyewash&OVKEY=colloidal%20silver&OVMTC=advanced

Would I have to have it tested by that company in New Jersey to know?
If so, you can PM me with the website or just post it here tomorrow.

Thanks for your help and concern.
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[eytonsearth]

Hi "Clay Basket":

While Al's remarks should generally be considered true, heart palpatations can be caused by either overdosing on silver, or an abnormal sensitivity to silver in general:

http://www.silvermedicine.org/safety2.html

It's possible that the heart palpatations were only coincidental. The product you are using is not dangerous ( compared to silver nitrate, salts, etc. )... In other words, you couldn't have overdosed on silver.

An internal allergic reaction to silver is exceedingly rare, but I've come across it a handful of times over the last eight years.

The only true way to tell would be to have a Melisa Test done.

Those who do have a true sensitivity to pure silver have found that they are not able to use it internally. Whatever reaction they have experienced, however, clears up rapidly.

I have always suspected that those with a silver intolerance ( allergic reaction truly MEANS an abnormal reaction ) likely have issues with other metals.

Kind Regards,
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[Big Al]

Yes Clay, the lab is the only way to know. Yes I will get the site for you and post here. When you open it scroll near 3/4 way down and there is the list of all Mfg's they have tested and all the data concerning the products Clicking on the blue words takes you to that company and also gives you more info

[Big Al]

Here is the site for the lab http://www.silver-colloids.com/Reports/reports.html

[clay-basket]

Thank you both for the information. Al, I will check out the website ASAP.

Jason, yes, I am allergic to metals, but I think it's more the alloys than the actual metals themselves, although I'm not positive about that. These are external reactions because I've never taken a metal internally before, that I know of.

I can wear my wedding rings, my class ring and anything made from Black Hills Gold, and that's about it. If I wear cheap, costume jewelry (like pierced earrings off a rack) my ears react within an hour or two. Red, raw, sometimes oozing.

Is that the same type of reaction to which you were referring? I do have a pair of sterling silver earring posts, and they don't bother me at all, either.

Yes, I stopped the internal colloidal silver after three days and within hours the palpitations stopped. It was the only new thing introduced into my supplement regimine in months, so it had to be coming from the silver. So, I now just use my colloidal stuff to add to my cleaning water in the bathroom, etc. I also soak my toothbrush in it to cleanse it, but I rinse it very well. We have a whole house water filtration system, so I'm not usually troubled by fluoride, chlorine, etc.

Any other suggestions or ideas would be much appreciated and again, thanks for the input.

BTW, I adore this website. I have learned so much about clay already (always been interested). My head is spinning! I have lots of questions but want to read some more first...stay tuned!!
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[eytonsearth]

Hi Clay!

Thank you for the kind words; they are appreciated.

Ideally, you can eliminate these reactions, when the body is returned to full health.

You can try this experiment:

Fill your mouth with your electrically isolated silver. Swish it around for ten to 15 minutes, then spit it out. Some MD's use this method only for using CS internally.

Thousands ( more likely hundreds of thousands ) of silver ions combine with metalloprotein produced by the saliva. The metalloprotein surrounds the silver ions, and acts as a biological transporter. Silver ions, and minute silver particles, some now protected by the metalloprotein, adsorb sublingually and travel into the bloodstream.

If you have no similiar reaction with this method, then perhaps you can continue it for a month or so; see how your immune system responds after a full adjustment cycle ( 21 days ).

Of course, I'm a big believer in knowledge over ignorance; and evidence over blind speculation ( but, when all else is lacking, faith [[ believing what you see/know/experience ]] over blindness )! This is not always possible, of course. If you get the opportunity ( which means finding an MD with an open mind -- which can sadly be a difficult task ), have a Melisa Test done.

If silver shows up ( or any other heavy metal sensitivity ), then you KNOW you need some detoxification and immune system help.

http://www.melisa.org/

Kind Regards,
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[clay-basket]

Thanks Jason.

Yes, I've definitely got something going on with my immune system that is affecting my nervous system, but I've been to several docs and no one is able to figure out a diagnosis, so treating it is a crap-shoot. I tried a couple of their Rx's for a bit, but nothing helped. The doc's keep trying to treat me for pain -- this situation is not totally painful, but it is annoying. It is also a long story, which I don't mind sharing but most people aren't interested in listening! It concerns my feet - nerves and either an arthritis type problem or maybe even fibromyalgia or something).

Thus, I decided to try to boost my immune system in a number of ways, drinking lots of fresh fruit juices (I have my own juicer).

I have tried a few herbal things, as well...some with a modicum of help, some no help, and some I reacted to (serrapeptase and silver - both caused the palpitations). My body does tend to overreact to meds or herbs. If I need to take an aspirin or something, I break them in half because I just don't need the same amounts as most folks require. It's a mystery!!

At any rate, I know that clay can be very healing both internally and externally. I prefer to use it externally as a footbath or a compress. Then I happened on your website while doing a search for oil-pulling. What a find!! I felt like I could not move away from my computer until every page was read, although I haven't quite accomplished that yet, but I will!

Any suggestions for boosting the immune system or anything you think might be relevant to my foot problems would be helpful and appreciated. I also have a sinus infection which has led to an eye infection (right side only) which I simply cannot shake. This is another reason I suspect immune problems. RA runs in my family, too, as I just lost a sister in February partially because of the RA. It was, I believe, also an iatrogenic situation -- too many drugs for too many years. I am against most drug use and prefer to find alternative methods.

Sorry this got so long.
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Clay-basket

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[eytonsearth]

Hi "Clay":

No need to apologize for your post lengths; I enjoy reading your thoughts, and I'm sure many of us can benefit from your great attitude.

With natural medicine, as apposed to alternative medicine, one does not need a positive diagnosis to begin. A positive diagnosis is always excellent, of course.

Clay foot baths are nice; but I believe foot baths primarily effect the lower lymphatic system. They do not compare to full clay baths, where 7/8 of the body is submerged.

It's always good to start with the body's digestive system. As V.E. Irons was fond of saying, "Life begins and ends in the colon."

It is NOT easy for westernized individuals to truly restore their health after years of toxic exposure; environmental, chemicals in the food supply, diet, etc.

But I have picked up some excellent tricks.

First, check your PH levels of your soft tissues, by taking a full day sample using ph testing strips ( testing the saliva every four hours ). If at any time, the test of the saliva is below 7.0, then there is an acidic problem in the body.

Internal clay use is excellent. However, it may not be enough to restore full health.

Consider using a Kosher whole food supplment. My recommendation is "The Ultimate Meal", by Ultimate Life.

It is expensive, but when used as directed ( 1/3 cup twice daily ) it is well worth it.

You can see the full list of ingredients here:

http://www.las-vegas-area.com/ultimate-meal-las-vegas.html

Consider applying some measure of caution with fruit juices. There is a danger of ingesting TOO much natural sugar. The risk is of course metabolism dependent. Some people can tolerate more than others.
Thus, it is wise to balance it out by juicing green vegetables ( I use always use a celery base ).

The body's total immune system CAN be reset. The body's energy system can be reset as well; both require extreme measures and due diligence.

Your sinus infection could be eliminated by irrigating the sinuses with EIS colloidal silver; however, I wouldn't recommend it until you solve your reaction problem.

You can try adding a small amount of hydrogen peroxide to your silver, and treat each ear ( by using a dropper to fill the ear canal with the silver/H2o2 mixture while lying on your side ). You will be able to tell if you have a problem because one ear would likely react much more to the silver/h2o2 than the other ear.

Experiment a few times, and you'll see what I mean.

I've personally never seen an eye infection last very long when thick clay poultices are applied to the closed eye.

Doing this on both eyes is often also very soothing; although it can be a touch messy.

Kind Regards,
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[clay-basket]

Hi Jason,

I'm sorry, I should have just used the term juices, because I use a mixture of veggie and fruit juices. Usually a carrot/celery base and adding 1 granny smith apple and 1/2 cup frozen cranberries or blueberries, and some spinach, and wheat grass powder.

I also use a fruit smoothie every morning when I'm not juicing or juice fasting. Just organic fruit, 1 scoop of whey protein - that's it. I have been studying foods, spices, herbs, teas, essential oils, etc., for over 25 years. I eat really healthy, steamed or raw foods for the most part, and if I eat meat it is pasture-fed (broiled or baked only). I don't eat much fish because I don't like it or trust it anymore, but I do take a quality fish oil capsule daily. (Solgar MaxEPA).

I have a prolapsed mitral valve in my heart, and thus tend not to want to do the entire body baths. I have to take a beta blocker because of this heart issue, and that may be why I have reactions to some things that don't bother other folks. I use a very small amount of medication (12.5 mg daily, as opposed to the 100 mg/day my doc had me on to begin with). I kept getting dizzy and we discovered I just didn't need that much medication because my BP is totally normal. My usual readings are around 117/76, on average. I am 52 years old and in full-fledged menopause with all the usual symptoms pretty much under control with progesterone cream, except an occasional hot flash.

I believe my lymphatic system is in pretty good shape because I try to do all the right things and I also have whole-body lymphatic massage every two weeks, along with my regular my foot massage. It's the only relief I get for my feet, other than an occasional visit to my chiropractor. He thinks the basic problem is an entrapped nerve somewhere, and it is flaring. Could have been there for many years and is just now causing problems.

My Dad died of colon cancer 10 years ago, and since then I have really gone on a healthy eating regimine. My family isn't always happy with my food choices, but we are healthy for the most part. We have occasional things that happen like anyone else, but we see so much illness around us that is a lot worse than a foot condition and a sinus/eye infection!

I would love to do the eye packs, if you could direct me as to how it's done and what type of clay to use. That would be wonderful. I don't care about the mess, I'm up for it!! It does sound soothing, to be sure.

I will pick up some testing strips at the drugstore tomorrow. I have a friend who does this all the time and I never really bought into the acid/alkaline thing too much, because I eat a very healthy diet. I have been doing the oil-pulling and adding the clay for two days now. Will let you know how that goes. I have trouble because it gags me, so 10 minutes is about all I can handle right now.

I use kosher supplements already, but when I run out I will look at the ones you have recommended.

Will using the colloidal silver/h202 in my ears help the sinus/eye thing, is that what you're saying? I can see where it would, but I want to make sure I'm understanding you. Since the infection is localized to the right side sinus and eye, I'm guessing that is the side that will react.

I will try adding some colloidal silver to my neti pot (which I have done in the past with no problem) but didn't want to do it until I know if I'm allergic or whatever. When I did this previously, I added the CS along with my homemade mixture of baking soda/gray sea salt as my sinus wash. Is that ok, or should I just use the CS and not the buffer/salt solution?
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here are some measurements for you..*Dosage and Administration*

The human body is a complex system that may prevent certain levels or concentrations of Colloidal Silver from reaching the "affected area". Since Colloidal Silver can only destroy pathogenic organisms when it is in contact with them for a sufficient period of time, then the amount of the dosage must be higher in terms of concentration in order to be successful.

One teaspoonful of a 5 parts-per-million (PPM) solution of Colloidal Silver is equivalent to about 25 micrograms (mcg.) of silver. Anywhere from 1 to 4 teaspoonsful (25 to 100 mcg.) per day is generally considered to be a "nutritional" dose, and is reported to be safe to use for extended periods of time. Amounts higher than this are "therapeutic" doses, and should be used only periodically.

Natural health practitioners have usually recommended one tablespoonful daily for 4 days in order to establish a level, and then one teaspoonful daily for maintenance (proportional to body weight for children). After six weeks, a pause of several weeks has also been suggested by some doctors.

In cases involving an illness or sudden exposure to a harmful organism (such as anthrax spores), natural health practitioners have often recommended taking double (or even triple) the "nutritional" dose for anywhere from 30 to 45 days in order to provide general protection, and then reducing it to a smaller maintenance dose. In acute conditions, amounts ingested have ranged anywhere from 1 to 32 ounces per day.

When taken orally, solutions of Colloidal Silver is absorbed directly from the mouth into the bloodstream, and then is transported rapidly to the cells of the body. Holding or swishing the solution under the tongue for approximately 30 seconds before swallowing may result in quicker absorption, and the silver may accumulate in the bodily tissues in sufficient amounts within 3 to 4 days in order for benefits to occur. In order for it to reach the lower digestive tract, add one teaspoonful of Colloidal Silver to 16 ounces of distilled water, and drink this for 5 days. Colloidal Silver is eliminated by the kidneys, bowels and lymphatic system after several weeks.

It is also important to consume several glasses of water each day when using Colloidal Silver in order to purge the body of toxins. However, if your body is extremely ill or toxic, do not attempt to cleanse the body too rapidly. If pathogens are destroyed too quickly, then the body’s five eliminatory channels (the liver, kidneys, lungs, bowels and skin) may become temporarily overloaded, resulting in a "healing crisis" condition (commonly referred to as ‘feeling worse before feeling better’ syndrome) that includes symptoms such as headaches, dizziness, nausea, extreme fatigue, aching muscles and other flu-like conditions. If this occurs, then reduce your intake of Colloidal Silver while increasing the amount of distilled water. In addition, regular bowel movements are necessary in order to relieve the discomforts of the detoxification process.

Incidentally, Colloidal Silver is completely safe for children, and many have used the solution either orally, or topically in the eyes and ears of small infants with no adverse reactions. Remember, you cannot overdose on Colloidal Silver, and even if you consumed 50 times the recommended amount, it is not wasted, as it will accumulate in the bodily tissues in order to provide further benefits in the future. One accepted method is to consume a 32 ounce bottle monthly in any convenient increments anytime during the month.