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William Hendry
Joined: 27 Aug 2006 Posts: 3
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Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 6:43 pm Post subject: magma vs clay water |
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Jason - from your other articles it is my understanding that the drawing power of clay is dependent upon the relative proximity of the clay particles, and that a properly hydrated magma has the particles suspended in the optimum arrangement for maximum drawing power. Further, I believe you also make the point that when the particles are separated beyond a certain point they lose their magnetic power. With regard to internal use, you state that clay water is only used to get the body used to clay and not for any real detoxification.
My question then is: How does a "clay water" bath, even with 4lbs or so, have any real drawing power?
Thanks
Will |
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eytonsearth Site Admin
Joined: 31 Dec 1969 Posts: 278 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada
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Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 6:47 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Will!
That's an excellent question, and thank you for bringing it up.
Most people who use and study clays recognize one single property that is responsible for clay's "magnetic" or "drawing" effect.
I do not. I "see" at least two.
First, let's look at the scientific viewpoint. From a scientific viewpoint, one single clay particle will have the effect that healing clays are known for. The mechanism is known as an ion exchange capacity. Provided that the clay is hydrated, even one particle will have that power of sorption ( adsorption ). When clay is NOT hydrated, even a few particles of bentonite ( especially sodium bentonite ) will have some capacity for absorption.
In a warm clay bath, the body's lymphatic system is stimulated, the pores open, and the body begins to cleanse.
However, I also recognize a collective effect that clay has when in magma form. I would loosely term this as an electromagnetic effect, where the clay particle do not act independently, but collectively.
The difference between a clay bath made with 10 lbs of clay and a clay bath that IS a magma bath is profound.
However, it is very difficult to do this in any normal setting.
When I am treating a serious problem area, ideally I would use an emmense amount of clay magma... Geometrically larger than the problem area ( provided that no major organs are involved ), in fact. I have many reasons for this, based on my studies of Dr. Robert O. Becker's landmark publications, and personal experience.
In other words, with a problem leg, I have been known to use four times the amount of clay than the size of the leg ( by volume )... That can easily be 20 lbs. of clay.... ESPECIALLY if I believe that the bone is involved.
Of course, we don't live in an ideal world, and sometimes this cannot be done. I used to try to teach this method of clay use, but it comes with alot of important if's and but's... which I've found are often ignored.
The clay pack ideology is a time tested, traditional use of clay.
I don't remember stating that there is no detoxification when clay is used internally.
In fact, French Homeopaths have shown that within ten seconds of placing healing clay in the mouth, the body has a measurable detox effect.
Sodium bentonite is excellent for colon cleansing, and healing clays act as a general homeostatic "catalyst" that causes change in the body. This mechanism is not understood.
However, I believe that one cannot simply drink clay water and expect full body detoxification.
The different methods for clay use have different purposes and effects.
Kind Regards,
Jason
Last edited by eytonsearth on Wed Nov 29, 2006 5:24 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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William Hendry
Joined: 27 Aug 2006 Posts: 3
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Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 8:39 pm Post subject: clay water vs magma |
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Jason, thanks for the info. What I had understood from some other articles on the site was that clay water didn't really have much of a detox effect, but rather it just got the body used to clay. However, your reply confirmed what I had suspected, namely, that clay in all forms, including clay water, has 'some' sorbtive property, and that clay in a magma form has the most drawing power. So that's all clear to me now, and I see why some people just use a few pounds of clay in a bath and get some results, even if not the maximum possible results.
I have done the clay water bath route with some success, but would like to experience a series of full emersion magma soaks. Because it would be fairly expensive and time consuming to make a tub full of magma for each soak, I'm wondering whether I can make up a tub full and use it more than once? This would be a fair amount of magma and I can't imagine that the sorbtive properties would be exhausted after one use. What's your opinion on this?
Regarding the temperature, it would seem to me that if you let the clay hydrate properly it (obviously) wouldn't be warm anymore after a couple of days of hydrating. So do you worry about having magma warm, and if so, how do you warm it back up?
Will |
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eytonsearth Site Admin
Joined: 31 Dec 1969 Posts: 278 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada
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Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 9:11 am Post subject: |
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Hi Will:
If you are the only one using it, yes a full clay magma bath can be reused a few times.
Heating the clay is a big problem. You can use Far infrared to heat a clay bath, but it takes time and alot of power.
There are those who have actually built clay bath facilities, and use waterproof ceramic heaters designed to be submerged in the clay/bath. Going this route, it is important to use a device that does not circulate the water/clay, as any pumping device won't last very long.
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William Hendry
Joined: 27 Aug 2006 Posts: 3
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Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 4:41 pm Post subject: magma bath |
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Thanks Jason, Yes it occurred to me that some sort of submersible heater would work. If I come up with a good solution I'll post it.
Cheers
Will |
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chris.klinton
Joined: 06 May 2010 Posts: 3
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Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 10:02 pm Post subject: |
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| There are lots of things by which you can control it. But the nice one and very effective is the clay and mud baths and it's gives effect very instantly.... |
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